Values and reason
But if values are not subject to our voluntary control, then how could we ever change them due to rational argument? It actually seems to me that vaules often do not change due to rational argument. The paradigmatic example of this for me was the argument I had with the people from my science fiction club. They had iron-clad arguments that "you have to increase the benefits for your society" in that in killing out of self-preservation, "you can kill up to the number of people in your party, but you can't kill any more than that". But this was not enough to prevent them from landing that stupid ship--they simply said that they would do it, and then that they would feel guilty after it. I thought that that was very convenient for them, allowing them to have their cake and eat it too.
What you can say in that situation, however, is that their guilt is their moral disvalue of their action. Their choice to land the ship reflects their prudential value of stayin...